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Discussion in 'PROBLEMS - LET US TRY TO HELP' started by apg, Oct 6, 2010.

  1. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    Has anyone had trouble using echeck us?I used them two times at Vegas Regal with no problem.Then on the third time they said my check was returned unpaid.I had to have Vegas regal to unlock my account so I could pay them with QT.I called my bank and they told me that no transaction for that amount had been presented for payment.Now this past weekend I used them at 21 Grand casino and the same thing is happening. They debit the echeck fee & not the amount of the deposit I made to the casino.So I called my bank again I was told the same thing a fee of $3.50 was debited from my account but nothing else.So now I guess I will be locked out of this casino until pay them with QT.
  2. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    Uh oh! Sounds like a problem with Rival's processors. "
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    So they locked you out of your account after you made a legitimate (meaning you didn't send them a check that was gonna bounce lol) deposit which they didn't process and tell you that it was sent back to your bank because why????"
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    Who got the $3.50? Rival or the bank? If it was Rival, ummmm, why are they collecting processing fees on something the bank says was not presented to them. And if it was the bank who collected the $3.50, why would they charge you for a check that was not presented to them also?"
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    I do not use echeck, ewallet or e-anything. QT and/or CC is all I use. So no, I have not run into this."
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    apg, you come up with some doozies! LOL Not saying it's your fault at all but you make me think with all your posts. lol
  3. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    Mben,The $3.50 goes to echeck for their service.They seem to be able to debit fee, but the $25 deposit doesn't seem to show at my bank.They charge this in two separate transactions the fee $3.50 & then the $25 should show up at the same time.when I was locked out of Vegas Regal  ( my Fav Rival) I was so angry & I went to my bank demanding an explanation as to why my echeck was returned unpaid.The book keeper showed me on her computer that the only debit that came from echeck was $2.50. That was what the fee was in august.So all I can do is think the problem is with echeck.Anyway I got everything straighten up with Vegas Regal & that was the most imporant thing to me in this situation.
  4. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    Right, echeck would need a cut. I forgot about the middle man. "
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    And if echeck is collecting for services that are not happening (meaning they are suppose to take the money from your bank account and send it to the casino), someone needs to look into echeck (the casinos who use them) and ask echeck what is up.
  5. rebago

    rebago WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    Been using Echeck since July with no problems. You are are right the fee comes out and then very shortly thereafter the debit. You have more nerve than I going to the bank to ask them about gambling debits lol Good for you!
  6. krystalkitty

    krystalkitty Greedy Gambler

    Guess no more Echeckus for me. I only use it VR, but no more and that is only cuz of the bonus I get when I deposit that way...NO MO!!!!!!!
  7. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    My wife brought me the mail today while looking through it I noticed my bank statementI opened it and guess what I seen typed on my statement.To paraphrase Gambling Transactions will not be processed due to unlawful internet Gambling act . I guess that is why the debits never showed up.I guess that is the end of echeck for me.Now I will have to pay 21 Grand with my QT account.The reason I signed up with echeck was to receive my winnings.I hear QT can't transfer the funds back into the USA.
  8. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    So the bank did receive the transaction and denied it? If they told you they were not presented with the echeck, how could they not process it due to the UIGEA? If your bank accepts international wire transfers, you can transfer your funds from QT to your bank account.  
  9. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    Mben,My bank is a small bank with only 3 or 4 branches. I believe my statement comes from the main office.My local branch probably didn't see the debit presented because the main office probably stopped it before it showed up.They have to know these are gambling transactions, because they have never wrote this on my statement before and I have been banking there since 2002.Also the fee must be coming up as a different type of transaction & that's why it is getting paid.Below you will see what I mean. This is what my online statement looks like.If they would put it into one transaction & label it the same as the $2.50 fee is I believe it would have cleared.-- Edited by Mben on Wednesday 6th of October 2010 11:31:52 PM
  10. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    I understand now apg. Thanks for explaining that to me. "
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    And you understand why I edited out the bank info. [​IMG]
    Last edited by a moderator: Oct 23, 2014
  11. omeg

    omeg NEW MEMBER

    Now this was an interesting post.  I learned alot, and it all makes sense in the end. Your bank put the skids to the transaction as it was a gambling transaction.  Yet the fee went thru. I use QT, and have a local bank, meaning only in Michigan, and my wire transfers from QT do come thru.  I just recieved one yesterday.  Quite speedy too.                                                                                Pam
  12. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    I sign up with cash o lot casino a while back and was locked out on the first login. They told me that I was banned from the rival brand.
    Casino Fiz told me it was about a charge back or a dispute. I have been trying to figure this out for months and the only thing I can come up with is this echeck thing that happened almost 5 years ago.
    And the bad thing is I quickly made good on these unpaid transactions with an alternate payment method.
    So looks like any online casino at anytime can screw things up for a player.
    So my question is do we have anyway to clear our name?
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  13. Sookie

    Sookie Mother of Cats

    It sounds like you are on the global blacklist for Rival. You need to contact the casino directly, perhaps even give them a link to this thread and ask them how to proceed.

    The thing is even if the Rival Powered casino themselves is willing to work with you that doesn't mean Rival will.
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  14. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    I sent a email to Vegas Regal and asked if they put me on the blacklist.
    Haven't heard back yet, so we will see if anything good comes from it.
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  15. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    Ok I heard from Vegas Regal this is what they sent me.

    Following up on your email.
    We have contacted Rival and it appears that the open chargeback was
    registered at Casino Fiz. You will have to contact that casino for
    further details.
    Thank you for contacting us. If you have any further questions, please
    don't hesitate to contact us again.
    Have a nice day.
    Sincerely,
    Vegas Regal Casino Customer Service

    Ok, I made one deposit there and did not do a charge back. It was only $20 or $25 I can't remember but I have a record of it somewhere.
    I went back a few days later to play again and I was locked out.
    I didn't know why this happened, I just figured they didn't accept players from the USA.
    I checked my bank statement and seen where the transaction dropped off meaning no longer pending.
    So I thought that they was not going to collect it because of me being a USA player.
    I have contacted Casino Fiz several times but no response.
    I have been to other sites and they are blacklisted there and are considered trouble.
    I don't know if they are trouble or not but in my case it would seem so.
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  16. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    Now you know for sure who you have to go after, apg.

    All I can do is wish you the best of luck when trying to get a hold of Casino Fiz.

    We don't do business with them so I don't have not contact. :(
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  17. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    No answer from Casino Fiz.
    This so called charge back should have been around January 2013.
    I can't find any thing on my bank statement that would indicate a chargeback.
    I really don't know how you do a chargeback, I guess you would have go to your bank and fill out some forms or something.
    I do know from different sites that I became a member of 10 plus years ago that if you do chargebacks you are doomed when it comes to online casino's. So for that reason I definitely would not do a chargeback a such small amount like $20-$25, especially when I spend so much more at other sites and don't do chargebacks.
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  18. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    I've never dealt with a charge back but I know that also ... once you do one, you are on "the list" and playing at casinos can be difficult after that.

    Hopefully Casino Fiz can shed some light for you if and when they get back to you.
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  19. apg

    apg WELL KNOWN MEMBER

    Well it has been a month and I have not received any response from casino fiz,
    I have been told that I am banned from all Rival Casino's.
    If this is the case then why am I still able to deposit and play at most of the ones that still take players from the USA?
    And as I told Casino Fiz I have been playing online since 1999 and have made tens of thousands of dollars in deposits and never did I once did a chargeback. So why would I do one on such a small amount of only $20.
    The only thing I can figure is someone got my transaction mixed up with another players or they had processor issues.
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  20. Mben

    Mben No Deposit Forum Admin Staff Member

    apg, I have sent you a PM. :)
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