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TurboN

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Hi all!!I'm new to this forum and I've discovered it since some issues i got with WinPalace that forced me into looking around to see what people experienced with them.What i found about them was pretty dissapointing but since i've managed to win 1,200$ from a 75$ no deposit bonus code , the legit way ( one account , first timer , all withdrawal info and docs clearly completed and sent while speaking to the customer support .) , i wasnt nervous about the processing time.but oh surprise.today they start lieing to me about the finance dept. that apparently sent me an email yesterday about missin docs ( this email never got into my inbox by the way , spam inbox too ).customer service told me they ent an email to the finance dept so they will resend the email....-.-seems to me like they are trying to get out of giving me my money by confusing me or something.its been about 8-9 days into process by the way. This being said , i have been reading your forum last week and you sure are excellent at taking care of these kind of cases.would someoe help a broke student ?username on winpalace : TurboNipples(don't laugh at my name XD)thanks in advance! 
 

TurboN

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by the way,i know about this forum policies and i know this is a new account. But im not just new in this forum, im new to the whole no deposit bonus scene and I learnt all my do's and don't on this forum. I will contribute to this forum but i guess i need some kind of experience for that. Getting through this approval process with winpalace will give me tool in order to help.i am aware of the hard work and time everyone here invest so thank you all!!
 

omeg

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Hello new member:First off, sounds like you have missing documents that need to be completed at Win Palace.  This casino is reputable, and in my opinion, if they say you have missing docs, then you do, it isnt likely they are lying to you. We have many members that have repeated withdraws from WinPalace successfully.  I think once you get your documents in, your withdraw will go much faster for you next time.Please get with Live chat or send finance a note to find out what exactly is wrong with your documents, so you can correct the problem.We will be with you each step.                                                                               Pam  
 

omeg

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By the way.........I dont know if you are familar with the term Max Cash out, but usually on a no deposit bonus that you claim, like the $75 , there is a maximum you can cash out from.  Note that all no deposit bonuses at WinPalace have a maximum cash-out value of 5x the bonus amount awarded. This means that your $75 no deposit bonus can only be cashed out up to $375.   Sorry I dont have better news for you TurboN but looks like you will be cashing out $375.                                                                                                       Pam    
 
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lillysmimi

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Hello Turbo,I have learned the missing documents issue with online casinos, is just something that I'm gonna have to be patient about (as much as it makes me upset & wanna send ugly emails, think the worst, etc!) I had the same thing happen to Me at WinPalace (a loong time ago) - Titan Casino - Manhattan Slots ; all of which I feel to be reputable casinos. I know we want that same treatment, fast pay, etc we get (an should expect) from landbased casinos, but in all reality, if you research and look at the stories on forums about this issue, it's common......and if you find a reputable, trustworthy casino, just be patient with them. It's not as easy as getting your money (with laws, documentation, etc) But, you will......Just send what they request....again, and bit your tongue...the good thing is...YOU WON $1200 (for free....WOW!!!)
 

TurboN

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Thanks PMM2008 and  lillysmimi for your replies, but to answer that post from you PMM2008 , it is very unlikely that i have missing docs since i have sent these docs to the customer support so that she could tell me if everything was ok , and she confirmed it was. i don't have the chat transcript for this particular conversation. but what i do have is a chat I kept from talking with the customer support not long after I realised i had 1,300 to cash out. <table style="width:100%;" dir="ltr" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5">General Info Chat start time  Jan 19, 2012 4:07:21 PM EST Chat end time  Jan 19, 2012 4:15:56 PM EST Duration (actual chatting time)  00:08:35 Operator  ornella <table style="width:100%;" dir="ltr" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="5">Chat Transcript info: Please wait for a site operator to respond. info: You are now chatting with 'ornella' ornella: Welcome to Win Palace Casino! ornella: My name is ornella; ornella: Can you provide me with your User Name and how I may assist you? TurboNipples: ok TurboNipples: TurboNipples TurboNipples: but don't laught ornella: hahahahaha ornella: :D TurboNipples: XD TurboNipples: yes so TurboNipples: i ued a couponcode POKER75 to get a free 75$ to start free of deposit TurboNipples: used* ornella: Just a moment please. ornella: Jo? TurboNipples: yes ornella: you have 1300$ TurboNipples: exactly ornella: withdraw them! TurboNipples: no shiz TurboNipples: i know lol ornella: haha TurboNipples: but i just had mayb a question or two ornella: dont take any freebies ornella: yes? TurboNipples: in the form that they asked me to fill they ask about credit card info , which i never used on your program TurboNipples: and they mention that they wont process an incomplete order ornella: ok, that is what you will do TurboNipples: ok ornella: and you cant cash out the whole amount u know that right? TurboNipples: yep ornella: you will need to deposit 21$ ornella: then withdraw them too TurboNipples: mhk , i though so ornella: after the forms wil be approved- we have to have your CC details  ornella: yea TurboNipples: ok so ornella: so deposit, and then send us the forms TurboNipples: since i neverspent money on your website my case wont be considered ornella: not until you deposit- then you will be eligible to withdraw like any other player TurboNipples: kk TurboNipples: well thank you for your time ornella: Is there anything else I can assist you with at this time? TurboNipples: nope have a nice day ornella: sure thing turbonipples ornella: :D ornella: you too  tell me what you think ^^
 
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omeg

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So , they are saying of you deposit $21, you can then withdraw the whole amount.  Gotcha.As far as the missing documents, if live chat told you they were good, perhaps finace is telling you they are not and finance has the final say.Please find out from them what the problem is with your paperwork, and we can deal with it further. :roll:                                                                                  Pam-- Edited by PMM2008 on Tuesday 31st of January 2012 01:20:51 PM
 

TurboN

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yeah i agree , i gotta bite my tongue! hope i just dont get to the point where ill be chewing it.But i just have to say that i have sent the docs they ask and if there is something missing well they never sent me anything telling me whats missing, i have been cheking everyday since the 19th. by the way its 12 days into faxback form approoval , not 8-9 sorry , its the same date i've spoke with ornella the customer support about the 1300$.
 

omeg

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TurboN wrote: yeah i agree , i gotta bite my tongue! hope i just dont get to the point where ill be chewing it.But i just have to say that i have sent the docs they ask and if there is something missing well they never sent me anything telling me whats missing, i have been cheking everyday since the 19th. by the way its 12 days into faxback form approoval , not 8-9 sorry , its the same date i've spoke with ornella the customer support about the 1300$.
 I see.............You cannot find out what is missing, therefore you cant fix it?  Am I right?And emails go unanswered?                                                                           Pam
 

TurboN

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exactly,it is kind of frustrating since I have been more than courteous with them.A couple days after talking with this ornella customer service lady I managed to stumble upon her in the live chat. I then explained the problem to her and she quicly told me to send her my docs so she could give them herself.I also ased her if i could expect an email from her and the finance department soon, she assured me that yes.I never got an email back from ornella and from the finance dept.to me the finance dept. just doesn't exist or it's ignoring me several e-mails to them..
 

omeg

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Tell you what I can do..............I'll send a quick note off to a rep I have contact with. See if I can get any answers.No promises, but it is worth a try. :roll:                                                                            Pam
 

TurboN

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wow um ok!don't know if this has anything to do with your email PMM2008 but I've just received an e-mail from adrianna from the finance dept!! hooray!she is saying she needs more proof of address, I have some around me I will take a picture and forward it to her asap!! things are looking great
 

omeg

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Thats great news............Hurry and get themn what they need so they can get your withdraw out to you.I am taking all the credit, for the email I sent. :lol:                                                                             Pam
 

belgamo

No Deposit Forum Founder
I am curious were you found that bonus code POKER75 , I have googled it and not found that code listed for anything to do with winpalace. So please tell us what site you found the code on you used.
 

TurboN

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have you tried googling ''POKER75 winpalace'' because I am getting multiple results about that code : S. and by the way they authorized my faxback form , i am now in the process of a wire transfer!!
 

Mben

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TurboN wrote: ... and by the way they authorized my faxback form , i am now in the process of a wire transfer!!
That's awesome, TurboN! :thumb:
 

omeg

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Thats fantastic news for you TurboN. :roll::roll:Glad things are moving along as they should.                                                               Pam
 

lucky8s

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You are very lucky you got paid, if you were playing at Club World or any of there casinos, you would not have been paid. They are also RTG casinos so stay away from them.NO FULLTIME STUDENTS allowed to play at RTG Casinos.................... Club World or Manhattans, High Noon, Aladdins, LuckyRed, actually I thought this was a rule at ALL RTG's. I was surprised when I read you had been paid at Win Palace. Their theory is you are spending your college money to gamble, whether paid by you or grants from your parents and they do not want this money spent on gambling.
 

tking1

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lucky8s wrote: You are very lucky you got paid, if you were playing at Club World or any of there casinos, you would not have been paid. They are also RTG casinos so stay away from them.NO FULLTIME STUDENTS allowed to play at RTG Casinos.................... Club World or Manhattans, High Noon, Aladdins, LuckyRed, actually I thought this was a rule at ALL RTG's. I was surprised when I read you had been paid at Win Palace. Their theory is you are spending your college money to gamble, whether paid by you or grants from your parents and they do not want this money spent on gambling.
 Are you saying the club world group wouldn't pay because he is a student or they just won't pay no matter what.The reason i'm asking is because I have had quite a few withdrawals from them with no problem and I usually receive it in a couple days. Although the slots are tight most of the time, I deposit with them alot because of the fast cashouts.
 

omeg

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Im curius too, as to what lucky8s meant.  I understand about the not wanting college students to gamble, but how would they verify such a thing.After all this time doing this terrific job, I still learn something new each day. :roll:                                                                               Pam
 

Mben

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I just chekd Lucky Reds terms and it states ... Players Representation and Warranties 1. The Player is at least 18 years of age or has reached the legal age of maturity in his/her jurisdiction, whichever is greater. Full time students aged 25 or under are not permitted to play in the Casino.
 
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Mben

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I just checkdd Lucky Reds terms and it states ... Players Representation and Warranties 1. The Player is at least 18 years of age or has reached the legal age of maturity in his/her jurisdiction, whichever is greater. Full time students aged 25 or under are not permitted to play in the Casino.
 
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lucky8s

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If it is brought to the attention of say the feds, whom we know are already looking for reasons to close online gambling down, that players, either under age, or students, are losing their grants, tuition and money saved up for schooling to online gambling, then we could be looking at all of us paying the price of the feds taking control and shutting everyone out, afterall, this is how they operate. Because students going broke to online casinos makes the news, whereas mother of 3 lost her familys grocery money doesn't.Term has been around for several years, how they find out EASY........Aladdins GoldA Very Expensive Mistakeby Steve RussoSeptember 2010Aladdin's Gold Casino is refusing to give a British player almost $7000 in winnings because he told them he is a student -- even though he has proven that he is not.Neither the casino nor Dan L dispute the basic facts of the case: Dan made three deposits, totaling $5000 over a period of three days, brought his balance to $11983.50, and then went to cash in.He used a student ID card to help prove his identity and when he was asked in Live Chat what his profession is, he replied Student .That was a big mistake. The casino's Terms & Conditions prohibit full time students from playing. It immediately told him that it would return his $5000 in deposits but is keeping his winnings.Gambling Grumbles feels that any casino has the right to set any rules that it wants, as long as it posts them clearly on its website, and if Dan had actually been a student when he played there we would not even have written to Aladdin's about his complaint.That, however, was not the case. I was asked what my occupation was Dan said. Since I recently graduated from university, have been a student all my life, and not found a job yet, I said I was a student, and sent my student ID in. They then said that students were not allowed to play at the casino, refunded my deposits, and closed my account. In fact, I was not a student at any time when I registered, deposited or played at the casino. The student ID I sent it clearly shows it has expired, and even when I said on live chat that I was a student, I think I mentioned that I had already recently graduated (although I'm not 100% sure I did say that). In any case, I went back on live chat to clarify the situation. I explained to them that I was not actually a student at any time when I played there, so I had not breached their terms. They insisted that because in the past I had said I was a student, whatever else I say is basically not relevant. They seem to only want to pay attention to what I tell them if it suits them. In order to prove that I was not a student when I played there, I sent my university degree certificate (which is dated a month before I signed up at Aladdin's Gold), another certificate for an award I won, and transcripts of my degree results (all also dated a month before I signed up). Aladdin's Gold chose to ignore this clear evidence, and simply said again that because I had said in the past on live chat that I was a student (clearly a mistake, which I have since clarified and corrected), they will not reopen my account or pay me what I am owed. Is that really what happened?The casino's representative, Tom, does not dispute it. The events on this account unfold as the player describes Tom said. After making several large deposits and requesting a withdrawal we requested ID from him. At this point and he told us that he was a student and used his student card as his proof of ID.We cannot accept students on our site and so in accordance with our terms of use we refunded all his deposits and closed his account. After he found out that we do not accept students he completely changed his story and said that he was not a student. We cannot accept this kind of retraction and so the original statements he made and proof of ID he provided stands .The key to this dispute, at least in Gambling Grumbles' eyes, is what Aladdin's Gold rules say. They prohibit students from playing there -- they do not prohibit people from saying they are students if they are not.Of course, having said he was a student, it then became Dan's burden to prove that it was not true. The papers that he provided the casino do that.Casinos tend to stand strictly by their posted rules. If Aladdin's Gold required someone to be a student to play there, it would not have accepted his unsupported word that he was -- it would have demanded proof in black and white. Here, where that proof supports the player's claims that he was eligible to play the casino is not interested in seeing it. Suddenly, what he said originally is all that it is interested in.
 

TurboN

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Technically, No I am not lucky to get paid because the truth is I was a full-time student around 4 months ago and I am currently not going to school.I am working on a portfolio full-time tho but heh thats written nowhere and I still consider it schoolwork in some way.
 

TurboN

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Now that I think about it , I did told one of the customer support I was a student but ...she didn't ask me if I was and didn't talked about the subject afterwards ... but you're making me nervous =.=My cashout form got accepted but now it's been 3 days and no news of that money.
 

krystalkitty

Greedy Gambler
After your withdrawal is approved (5-10 days), you will then receive an email stating how days it will take for it to reach your withdrawal method. About 5 days I think if I remember right. Long withdrawal process, but at least we get our winnings! GL to you!
 

TurboN

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well krystalkitty , my faxback form has been authorized ( does it mean the withdrawal is authorized like you said? ) and now 4 days later I still have no news of my 1200$, no e-mails yet... I can't wait for even the smallest sign that my money is on its way lol. So if what you said is right I should get an answer somewhere around tomorrow?
 

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